People like this have really been brainwashed into thinking that Whites were never enslaved lol.
Hey Alexa, how many Europeans were enslaved during the Barbary Slave Trade?
How many Slavs were captured along the Volga and sold in Arab countries?
How many Germans were made slaves by the Romans?
How many Greeks were made slaves by the Turks?
Practically every culture has been enslaved and practiced slavery
Where does the word slave come from? Hmmm….
This is such a disgusting mindset to have.
Some people are so America-centric they think the NAST (and only the part happening in North America) was the only kind of slavery that ever existed.
On that note, the Irish were never victims of chattel slavery, and that may be what most people mean when they say “The Irish were never slaves,” but equating one specific kind of slavery with slavery in the general sense is pretty short-sighted on its own.
And about the NAST, I don’t see people complaining about the sugar plantations in Brazil. You know? Where the majority of the African slaves actually went.
I’ll take riots and property damage over another dead Black person.
We need to value people over property!
Destroying property and violent rioting will not help protect black people. Burning up a Target will not help protect black people. Destroying the lives of minority bussiness owners will not help protect black people.
Champion real change. Don’t support people who use a dead black person (George Floyd in this case) as a way to produce their own brutality.
Shut the fuck up with your white privileged ass
Anyway none of this shit is helping black people or honoring George Floyd.
Great! Tell us what you’re doing! I’d love to hear solutions.
There isn’t a perfect solution to this but I would argue spreading awareness to what happened to George Floyd, demanding that the officers involved all face charges, and expressing a need for police reform (a few things I’m doing personally) is a lot better than breaking into a fucking Gucci store, beating the shit out of spectators, and destroying someone’s small business. All the violence and destruction does is take attention away from George Floyd’s story. 🤷♀️ I would love to go out to peaceful protest too but I’m worried for my own safety at this point with the fucking psychos you support running around are causing physical violence.
Ok let’s not talk over black people in this situation. This is about them, not us white or white passing people. Don’t tell them how to protest, or how to grieve, or how to deal with anger, or what they should and shouldn’t be doing. You’re white. I’m white passing. We could never hope to understand. Let them speak.
Oh so like his actual black family asking for people to stop doing this shit? Those black people? Because at the end of the day, this is about George Floyd and his family, who DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. I stand by George and his family. Fuck all the idiots damaging his memory and doing nothing to help the problem, only making it worse.
I’m white as shit and I will forever speak out against people ruining black/nonwhite owned businesses, ruining black/nonwhite communities, and continuing a black family’s suffering. Period.
Wow. See how nothing is said about stopping the murder of Black people by police.
Police killing innocent black people is fucking terrible and we need police reform. Obviously. Fucking OBVIOUSLY. The argument I responded to was not “How do we stop racism” it was “You’re white so you shouldn’t speak about this specific situation” so I spoke regarding it. Stop fucking strawmaning.
In regards to you being White and not speaking up about this, I would agree. Please dont. The riots/protests you disagree with is doing a disservice to the people who are rightly angry. You are not being an ally, and I would recommend doing more research on that. And listening to Black voices. I think Lonnie Bunch III (and Frederick Douglas), someone I read a lot about in my studies and who is the current Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, says:
“Although it will be a monumental task, the past is replete with examples of ordinary people working together to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. History is a guide to a better future and demonstrates that we can become a better society—but only if we collectively demand it from each other and from the institutions responsible for administering justice.
Frederick Douglass famously said, “Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground….The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle.” At this pivotal moment when the eyes of the nation and the world are upon Minneapolis, will we join the struggle to seek justice and equality? Will we heed the call of courageous figures throughout history who spoke out against slavery, marched on for voting rights, and sat in for basic equality? Will we challenge the nation to live up to its founding ideals? In the memory of those taken from us and for the good of the country, I hope that we do.”
“It is true that the police have exercised a degree of discipline in handling the demonstrators. In this sense they have conducted themselves rather “nonviolently” in public. But for what purpose? To preserve the evil system of segregation. Over the past few years I have consistently preached that nonviolence demands that the means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek. I have tried to make clear that it is wrong to use immoral means to attain moral ends. But now I must affirm that it is just as wrong, or perhaps even more so, to use moral means to preserve immoral ends. Perhaps Mr. Connor and his policemen have been rather nonviolent in public, as was Chief Pritchett in Albany, Georgia, but they have used the moral means of nonviolence to maintain the immoral end of racial injustice. As T. S. Eliot has said: “The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason.”
So I want to emphasize, the immoral means line. First, peaceful protests are preferred, yes. Absolutely. But when a marginalized community goes up against a militarized hostile force (which the police are) it isnt always peaceful. And we cannot always use MORAL tactics in order to bring an end to IMMORAL systems. No revolution has ever been won that way. To be against that means you lack a basic understanding of how violent the system has been. Which is something someone who is white might not truly understand unless you’ve been there. THAT is why I as a POC say that sometimes white people should not speak on certain issues. Because you lack a core level of understanding, through your environment. But you can change this by listening, studying, and trying to understand the root causes of why these IMMORAL acts are happening against an IMMORAL system.
You say fighting fire with fire is bad, but not always. Again using MORAL tactics does not always win. Neither do IMMORAL ones. We must consider whatever tactics might work - be they MORAL or IMMORAL. Either way, it is going to be a STRUGGLE. Slaves did not simply ask to be freed. The LGBTQ community did not simply ask to be treated equally. Sometimes you have to get our voice heard and sadly it sometimes takes social unrest to get that done. To attack the very systems (aka capitalism) that created/keeps these issues in the first place.
You said earlier you dont even want to attend the protests bc of violence. However, that made it clear to me that you do not have an understanding of what it means to be POC at a protest. Because the threat of violence will always be there for us more than you. And like I said the majority of protests are peaceful but the police are not peaceful. A MORAL group going up against and IMMORAL group does not always end well.
Businesses might be hurt but they can rebuild. And have said so, the CEO of Target has said he proritizes people over his buildings. Gandhi Mahal put this best:
“Suddenly: realization. It becomes clearer to me than ever that the issue at hand is greater than Gandhi Mahal. We can rebuild a building, but we will never reclaim the life George Floyd didn’t get to live. For years, protesters tried peace. It didn’t work. If this is what it takes to get justice, then it will have been worth it.”
At the end of the day you are condeming the way people are reacting to years and years of oppression. A gucci bag is replaceble but not a human life. Also these stores have insurance! Most people dont even have that due to the pandemic. And instead of condeming the system for getting people here in the first place, you lay the blame on the same POC that you claim you want to support. Its like blaming the victim of rape rather than the rapist. Finally, in response to you saying we need to listen to George Floyd’s family, here is Tamika Mallory:
“We are in a state of emergency… The reason why buildings are burning is not just for our brother, George Floyd. They’re burning down because people here in Minnesota are saying to people in New York, to people in California, to people in Memphis, to people all across this nation: Enough is enough… I don’t give a damn if they burn down Target because Target should be on the streets with us, calling for the justice that our people deserve. Where was AutoZone at the time when Philando Castile was shot in a car?”
And I too do not like the violence, but I know that I cannot blame the violence completely on people. I cant blame people for being angry right now. I can only blame the systems that got them there. And yes we want racism to end but using the same methods the status quo wants us to use may not work (remember Kap? Look what happened to him).
And I dont know if it’ll work! Although history has shown differently, but times are different so only time will tell. But I think thats the scary part in all this - we DONT KNOW. Times are scary and people react either online or IRL.
I sadly do not think you will understand this, although I hope you approach this with an open mind and listen to POC and Black voices.
Anyways the end!
That’s a nice big post with lots of paragraphs to justify shit like this
You wanna talk about human life? Fine let’s talk about human life.
You can spin it anyway you want, it is still absolutely terrible violence and anyone doing this is absolutely garbage. Anyone doing this doesn’t truly care about changing anything. Anyone doing this doesn’t care about George Floyd. Ruining your community and destroying the lives the people around you, people and things completely unrelated to the true evil, does nothing and will never be the real catalist for change.
You and anyone trying to justify this can eat a bucket of spiderwebs.
Anyways. The end.
God these idiots are insufferable
“You need to listen to black people”
Black person here. Burning down and looting small businesses (especially black owned ones) is counterproductive. There is noexcuse. You being angry does not give you permission to destroy property and steal from those who are innocent and arent even related to this.
@curlyfreaksword Also “listen to black voices”, “be an ally” (which you mean as dont disagree with anything we do) and mocking people and disregarding their inout based on their race is actually really racist and terrible. Not all black people think the same. We arent a hive mind. And if you dare wueation someone’s race because they dont agree with you, you need to have a seat and follow your own advice. Supporting a cause doesnt mean you cant be critical of the actions of others with similar affilitions.
MLK was talking about protests, not riots. Peaceful protests. How actually dare you use his name to justify burning down low income apartments and small black businesses of completely innocent people just because youre angry. How is robbing a theift store sending a message to the government? That’s just an excuse. You wanted stuff and a riot was a good cover. If you really wanted to send a message, you would have exclusively targetted the perpetrator or government buildings. Not that this would be a proper response. But much better than just running wild and destroying anything you can get your hands on. That’s childish and counterproductive.
It’s actually disgusting for people like you to just be jumping to defend bad actions.
Back to the opening point.
How’s that working out for ya
How about the toddler shot to death in the streets? How about the toddler shot to death in her own apartment? You people are fucking disgusting! VIOLENCE NEGATES VIOLENCE! TAKE YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES! The blood is on your hands.
I’m so sick of hearing “companies will recover, Target said lives can’t be replaced but their stuff can” yeah, and so have other major corporations. Sony said it as well…since they sell their things to the stores that everything was stolen from, so of course they are fine with it. Target will gladly take a sacrifice if it means the surrounding small businesses suffer more, from a lockdown to a burn-down. They won’t have any competition, and that’s exactly what they want.
You idiots are giving the rich that you claim to despise EXACTLY what they want, and you’re giving the police you claim to despise (though you also think they should be the only ones carrying firearms) more fuel to open fire with rubber bullets on you.
Fuck off all of you. I love how a riot, or a few cases of looting NEGATES Black Lives Matter.
Trevor Noah said it beautifully:
“I saw so many people online saying, these riots are disgusting and not how a society should be run. You do not loot and you do not burn this is not how our society is built.
Okay. What is society? Society is a contract that we sign as human beigns amongst each other. We agree in common rules and common ideals..the contract is only as stong as the people abiding by it.
But if you think of being a Black person in America and you’re living in any place where you’re not having a good time, ask yourself when you watch those people what vested interest do they have in mantaining the contract?
..Black American people watch time and time again how the contract that they have signed with society has not been honored”
https://youtu.be/v4amCfVbA_c
The social contract is broken
https://twitter.com/MsPackyetti/status/1269201784758771712?s=20
But these are just some “pretty words” from Black folk.
Anyways stay mad all you racists.
“A few cases”
Ahh yes, lying aside about just being a few cases, none of those supposed few people affected matter to you terrorist corporatist racists.
Also, just what we need, a quote from a rich comedian who thinks he’s intelligent.
Everyone is affected and none of you care UNLESS it’s a precious leftist terrorist black person that’s willing to bend to your horrendous will.
If it’s a black small business owner, you don’t give any care whatsoever. You wish for them to suffer while big companies thrive and leftist groups use these protestors for political gain.
None of you have the bravery to stand up to and fight the terrorists, just like none of you had the bravery to actually confront the police while armed, which would have saved a lot of hassle for you too.
You ultimately want government rule under the thumb of anyone who’s willing to make the white man subservient to you.
I love the assumption that only the cops can ‘fix the problem’, and people don’t have guns to protect themselves.
Also, Noah ignored the murders, just like OP keeps doing. Drink a shot.
He also assumed the rioters are all black people who actually care about Floyd’s death, which is clearly wrong. OP is making that same argument. Drink a shot.
What it boils down to is that you rioters, you Leftists, you terrorists, have been instructed to be mad and so you are mad. You have been instructed to go make a mess of your neighborhoods, so you made a mess of your neighborhoods. You were instructed to make asses of yourselves and went ahead and did just that. Maybe it’s time to stop listening to everyone else end figure out what YOU want out of life. At least, as long as that doesn’t involve stealing a television from a store that had NOTHING THE FUCK AT ALL TO DO WITH THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD.
I just love how quickly the mask slipped here.
Went from “Okay, please show me sources and how to offer proper help!” to “FUCK YOU, BLM!”, quoting a ‘comedian’ of all people and the “STAY MAD RACISTS!1″ the moment people offer actual rebuttals and evidence instead of this “appeal to emotion” nonsense and white-guilt tripping.
Shes a greedy, selfish, manipulative, demanding bullying, hateful little girl. Thats where their parenting got her. She went waaay past self esteem. Lil has self esteem. Kimmy has self esteem. Angelica thinks she’s better than everyone else and that everyone owes her something. There’s a reason she’s the main antagonist.
And if anyone dares call her bossy, they will just get a bunch of people defending her and missing the point.
someone recently said that the rugrats parents were commentary on bad parenting and honestly i think they’re right
all the parents are examples of bad parents, maybe more extreme examples in others
At the very lesst, they showed Angelicas mom at work, and she was no different than the sterotype of a man in the same position. For example, she was rude and abusive to her clearly overworked assistant (who retaliated by trying to get her job).
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the-boy-with-the-lolipops asked:
In his mayority they lust for power, but there are actual good politicans inside, just hope there were more of them. Ok i stop now xD.
nunyabizni answered:
this is why carer politicians shouldn’t be a thing, but the people that would actually be the best for the job don’t want it because they fear what it might do to them
And feel free to send asks whenever, I enjoy getting them
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